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Without Going To Jail - Without Confessing An SSN
This is the contemporaneous account - Read only the black text if you need the succinct version.
Today, September 3, 2004, my family and I attempted to obtain a Virginia driver's license without associating ourselves with the SSN which I know to be the number of the beast. We arrived at the Hampton office of the DMV on Roanoke Avenue, at about 11 o'clock a.m. Kim Root, from the Daily Press newspaper, was waiting for us and entered the DMV office with us. She stayed with us as we went through our application process.
After explaining to the man at the information desk that I was going to probably have to talk to a supervisor about obtaining a waiver to one of the driver's license requirements, he gave us a customer number C-241.
We talked to Carrie Sar... I explained to Carrie that we were, applying for driver's licenses for Leslie and I, and for a learner's permit for Bethany. We also needed to make an application for a waiver for one of the requirements on the application. Carrie asked which requirement. I pointed to the SSN block on my application where I had written "Religious Prohibition." I gave carrie a letter addressed to Mr. Smit who is currently the Commissioner of the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles. I also gave her affidavits from each of us that explained our religious convictions (ssndrivaffd.pdf), and affidavits from our Pastor (ssnexmpttenetsaffd.pdf), affirming the sincerity of each of our religious convictions. Carrie read the letter thoroughly. She quickly browsed on of the affidavits and asked, "Have you ever been issued a Social Security Number?" I answered, "I have never applied for a Social Security Number." Carrie asked, "Has the Social Security Administration ever issued a number for you or your wife or your daughter?" I answered, "That is a question you would have to ask the Social Security Administration. I am not the person to say what they do with their records." Carrie told me that she would submit the letter to her supervisor but she did not thing that "they" are going to make an exception. I asked if she ought to take all of the information that I had to prove identify and residence. She said that she could not process any of it unless the waiver is approved.
She came back after a long time. Leslie could see that the supervisors were reading the documents and discussing what they ought to do. Carrie came back and told us that the documents were being faxed to the headquarters in Richmond. We sat down and waited to be called. After about forty minutes she called me up to the desk and showed me a list of Virginia Code sections that the headquarters said indicated that identification with an SSN is required. I pointed to the application and showed Carrie the Virginia Code section citing that said the SSN is required on a driver's license application. I told Carrie that paragraph B. indicated that the SSN requirement could be waived. I quoted from what I could remember, "The Commissioner can waive any of the above requirements on a case by case basis for a good cause."
Carrie tried to hand the applications, letter and affidavits back to me. I made no effort to retrieve them. I asked her what the procedure was to appeal the decission. She told me I would have to write the Commissioner. I explained that I had tried to communicate my request to the Commissioner in the past. I also explained that we had been convicted of driving without licenses and the court said we could not use the law as a defense since we had not exhausted administrative remedies. Carrie said I would have to discuss that with my lawyer. I asked her if there was any appeal board that we had to go through and she said "no". I pressed her some more to get the DMV to show what "administrative remedy" was avialable or not available. That is when I found out that the documents had not yet been sent to the Commissioner's office. I asked her to send the request to the Commissioner's office. I gave her my phone number in case the Commissioner's office wanted to contact me later. Carrie sent the information to the Commissioner's office and had us wait to see if the Commissioner took any immediate action.
After a wait
of about
twenty minutes, Carrie told me that the
Commissioner's
office wanted to see a letter written in my own hand, not typed,
explaining
my request. The Commissioner's
office
would then communicate to me directly.
We are going to try to get driver's licenses using whatever administrative process is available. If it does not work, we will use whatever means are available to us to succeed using the Courts or through some other civil means. We will not stop until we overcome. I will post a copy of the letter after I send it.
In the King's service,
Bro. David